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Old Jun 29, 2006, 01:03 AM // 01:03   #1
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Default The New(er) KD+Spike from me :D

Yes, ive done it again!!!

Ive managed to combine the annoyance of constant KDs with the pressure from spikes and degen and wrap it into a nice little 5 second combo your target shouldnt see coming.

And ive decided to let it out to the public

10+2 Dagger mastery
10+2+1 Critical Strikes
7+1 Shadow Arts
9+1 Deadly Arts

Impale
Iron Palm
Falling Spider
Twisting Fangs
Moebius Strike {E}
Horns of the Ox
Shadow Refuge (or anything you want, really)
Ressurection Signet

this works fine with 15^50 zealous daggers with my favorite +5 armor daggers. As for armor, take the Keen (criticals) Mask with any choice of your armor except shrouded gloves and boots will most likely be necessary. Other than that, your free

So how it works, you just get kinda close to your target, as a cougar would track its target (:P), then do a quick Impale IMMEDIATELY followed my Iron Palm. The 3/4 cast time should stop most hex removals mid-cast. Then drop a Falling Spider to add damage+poison degen, and now they should be up and ready for more beatings. Smack em with our friendly Twisting Fangs increasing their degen to that of -7, and adding deep wound. Now they should be well below 50% health or just at it, allowing Moebius Strike {E} to do +40 damage and unlock Horns of the Ox as another KD+damage spike mix to finish those pesky backliners off

Notes: You can switch around Twisting Fangs and Horns of the Ox to get an earlier KD, but keep in mind your target may not immediately drop below 50% health as they would with bleeding and deep wound from Twisting Fangs.
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Old Jun 29, 2006, 01:16 AM // 01:16   #2
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dont know how you keep comming up with these builds. Looks good. Might have to give it a try once i get moebius capped. Anybody want to tell me where to cap it
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Old Jun 29, 2006, 02:05 AM // 02:05   #3
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god its in eternal grove explorable ya have to be a bloody kurz to get it X.X I had a petition to add a Jade Sea boss to get it but I got flamed and then my topic died.
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Old Jun 29, 2006, 02:49 AM // 02:49   #4
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see like ive been saying. not here but to my guildies and stuff. kurzick ftw. Well ill have to travel down there and find it. Thank you and good luck getting the boss in the jade sea
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Old Jun 29, 2006, 03:02 AM // 03:02   #5
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if you want you can just select the A/W premade that aleady packs Moebius
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Old Jun 29, 2006, 03:40 AM // 03:40   #6
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I hate pvp chars, don't like how ya have ta reroll all the time PvE---->PvP FTW Kurzicks are o.....k...... but I can't see worth a damn in their area, and I hate the clothing, some of the armor is fine I guess but still Luxon Necro FTW
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Old Jun 29, 2006, 07:21 PM // 19:21   #7
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You dont have to be a kurzick to get it. You just need to finish the quest befriending the kurzicks, so u can advance further on the kurzick side. It might be a pain getting 10,000 kurz faction though if your a luxon, but u can get there. How do u think people get the grandmaster cartography title? You need to be able to advance on both sides to get it.
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Old Jun 30, 2006, 12:23 AM // 00:23   #8
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wow...off topic much?
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Old Jun 30, 2006, 02:29 AM // 02:29   #9
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lol Vip- don't worry about it, and it relates to the Moebius Strike issue
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Old Jun 30, 2006, 02:55 AM // 02:55   #10
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Hmm the lack of a snare or speed boost troubles me. Maybe siphon speed or something?
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Old Jun 30, 2006, 03:22 AM // 03:22   #11
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who needs speed when you can sneak up on a mo fo and drop him but I get what you mean, if in ABs drop rez sig and go for dark escape or dash or something, BTW what is recharge on dark escape? and in reg situation drop refuge for one of these two.
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Old Jun 30, 2006, 09:27 PM // 21:27   #12
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Dark Escape is usable every 30 seconds.

I dont have much trouble in RA from runners because i can get em on the ground instantly, and by the time they are up, they are casting a spell to heal themselves, saving me the perfect amount of time to KD em again, finishing them off.

But in AB, definitly go for something to snare
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Old Jul 03, 2006, 12:56 AM // 00:56   #13
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sweet ill have to try this out. maybe you could have a necro put fetid ground on him to cause more degen, but thats not the point of the build is it?

anyway all the good elites are on the kurzick side anyway so why bother with luxon? heh heh

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Old Jul 03, 2006, 03:19 AM // 03:19   #14
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^^
I like Kurzick more than luxxon, but my guild is luxxon.

Anyway, GJ again on the build Lambent. I'm currently working on some interesting combos myself with a different build.

Good Luck and Happy Assassinating!
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Old Jul 03, 2006, 04:51 AM // 04:51   #15
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X.X Ima lux all the way, and I have to help out the kurzick dogs just so I can get Moebius Strike, I swear Anet lubs Kurzick more than Luxons
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well Gaile Grey is in the top alliance (mine), which happens to be kurzick

we just invited her and she accepted like a week ago 0.o

but really, you can just make a pvp slot and not go through the bother, this is a mainly pvp build anyways :P
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Old Jul 04, 2006, 03:14 AM // 03:14   #17
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X.X screw PvP slots, I may get one when we can buy slots but, PvEvP all the way.
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Old Jul 04, 2006, 09:50 AM // 09:50   #18
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Originally Posted by Lambentviper
Yes, ive done it again!!!

Ive managed to combine the annoyance of constant KDs with the pressure from spikes and degen and wrap it into a nice little 5 second combo your target shouldnt see coming.

And ive decided to let it out to the public

10+2 Dagger mastery
10+2+1 Critical Strikes
7+1 Shadow Arts
9+1 Deadly Arts

Impale
Iron Palm
Falling Spider
Twisting Fangs
Moebius Strike {E}
Horns of the Ox
Shadow Refuge (or anything you want, really)
Ressurection Signet

this works fine with 15^50 zealous daggers with my favorite +5 armor daggers. As for armor, take the Keen (criticals) Mask with any choice of your armor except shrouded gloves and boots will most likely be necessary. Other than that, your free

So how it works, you just get kinda close to your target, as a cougar would track its target (:P), then do a quick Impale IMMEDIATELY followed my Iron Palm. The 3/4 cast time should stop most hex removals mid-cast. Then drop a Falling Spider to add damage+poison degen, and now they should be up and ready for more beatings. Smack em with our friendly Twisting Fangs increasing their degen to that of -7, and adding deep wound. Now they should be well below 50% health or just at it, allowing Moebius Strike {E} to do +40 damage and unlock Horns of the Ox as another KD+damage spike mix to finish those pesky backliners off

Notes: You can switch around Twisting Fangs and Horns of the Ox to get an earlier KD, but keep in mind your target may not immediately drop below 50% health as they would with bleeding and deep wound from Twisting Fangs.
By using Mark of Instability instead of Impale would produce third KD on Twisting fangs effectively making this a knocklock
Iron Palm+Falling+Twisting+Moebius+HotO+Falling

During this chain anything longer than 0.25 sec spells would not get through. Lose the shadow arts and put more in deadly and get Expose defenses to prevent stances from ruining your combo, which is realistically the only thing to counter knocklock. Energy could be a problem though.
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By using Mark of Instability instead of Impale would produce third KD on Twisting fangs effectively making this a knocklock
Iron Palm+Falling+Twisting+Moebius+HotO+Falling

During this chain anything longer than 0.25 sec spells would not get through. Lose the shadow arts and put more in deadly and get Expose defenses to prevent stances from ruining your combo, which is realistically the only thing to counter knocklock. Energy could be a problem though.
i like the angle you put on this, but the reason i stick imaple in there was the extra damage thats added is pretty much needed in order to get anything other than a base 60AL target below 50% life in time for Moebius.

Otherwise, i would normally run MoI in here, which i sometimes do...especially for TA
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